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Dingo[_4_]
May 1st 08, 09:46 AM
This just came my way from a Canadian contact. "Sunday", I believe, refers
to last Sunday, the 27th April.
~~
Dingo
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There was a low-speed ground collision between a Spitfire and a Hawker
Hurricane at the Lone Star Flight Museum's air show today (Sunday).

According to Tom Gregory, a member of the museum and pilot of several museum
airplanes, a group had just finished a WWII fighter demonstration of
multiple aircraft: Gregory in the P-47, Ron Fagen's P-38, the museum's F6F,
Howard Pardue's Bearcat, Bill Greenwood's Spitfire and the museum's
Hurricane when the mishap occurred.

Gregory says everything had gone exactly as briefed including the recovery
of the Spitfire and Hurricane, which were the last two to land in calm wind.
>From the initial review, the Hurricane was at taxi speed when the brakes
failed causing a slow ground loop to the left resulting in the Spitfire
impacting the tail and left wing. The Spitfire ended up on its nose.

Although the Hurricane had recently finished a 16-year restoration, Gregory
says it had been flawless with no mechanical issues whatsoever. Ray
Middleton who was responsible for the majority of the restoration was on
site and was instrumental in recovering both aircraft without causing
additional damage.

"Even though we brief, execute the brief flawlessly, and do everything we
can, there are still inherent risks and hazards, but thankfully no one was
hurt," said Gregory. The Hurricane will be restored to flying status as soon
as possible.

Alan Erskine[_3_]
May 1st 08, 11:14 AM
"Dingo" ?> wrote in message
...
>
> This just came my way from a Canadian contact. "Sunday", I believe, refers
> to last Sunday, the 27th April.

There are those who like the Spitfire and those who like the Hurrican, but I
didn't know the aircraft took it so personally!

Billy[_4_]
May 3rd 08, 07:54 PM
At last proof the Hurricane is tougher than the Spitfire LOL.
===================================
"Dingo" ?> wrote in message
...
>
> This just came my way from a Canadian contact. "Sunday", I believe, refers
> to last Sunday, the 27th April.
> ~~
> Dingo
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> There was a low-speed ground collision between a Spitfire and a Hawker
> Hurricane at the Lone Star Flight Museum's air show today (Sunday).
>
> According to Tom Gregory, a member of the museum and pilot of several
> museum
> airplanes, a group had just finished a WWII fighter demonstration of
> multiple aircraft: Gregory in the P-47, Ron Fagen's P-38, the museum's
> F6F,
> Howard Pardue's Bearcat, Bill Greenwood's Spitfire and the museum's
> Hurricane when the mishap occurred.
>
> Gregory says everything had gone exactly as briefed including the recovery
> of the Spitfire and Hurricane, which were the last two to land in calm
> wind.
> >From the initial review, the Hurricane was at taxi speed when the brakes
> failed causing a slow ground loop to the left resulting in the Spitfire
> impacting the tail and left wing. The Spitfire ended up on its nose.
>
> Although the Hurricane had recently finished a 16-year restoration,
> Gregory
> says it had been flawless with no mechanical issues whatsoever. Ray
> Middleton who was responsible for the majority of the restoration was on
> site and was instrumental in recovering both aircraft without causing
> additional damage.
>
> "Even though we brief, execute the brief flawlessly, and do everything we
> can, there are still inherent risks and hazards, but thankfully no one was
> hurt," said Gregory. The Hurricane will be restored to flying status as
> soon
> as possible.
>

ŽiŠardo
May 3rd 08, 08:13 PM
Billy wrote:
> At last proof the Hurricane is tougher than the Spitfire LOL.
> ===================================
> "Dingo" ?> wrote in message
> ...
>> This just came my way from a Canadian contact. "Sunday", I believe, refers
>> to last Sunday, the 27th April.
>> ~~
>> Dingo
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> There was a low-speed ground collision between a Spitfire and a Hawker
>> Hurricane at the Lone Star Flight Museum's air show today (Sunday).
>>
>> According to Tom Gregory, a member of the museum and pilot of several
>> museum
>> airplanes, a group had just finished a WWII fighter demonstration of
>> multiple aircraft: Gregory in the P-47, Ron Fagen's P-38, the museum's
>> F6F,
>> Howard Pardue's Bearcat, Bill Greenwood's Spitfire and the museum's
>> Hurricane when the mishap occurred.
>>
>> Gregory says everything had gone exactly as briefed including the recovery
>> of the Spitfire and Hurricane, which were the last two to land in calm
>> wind.
>> >From the initial review, the Hurricane was at taxi speed when the brakes
>> failed causing a slow ground loop to the left resulting in the Spitfire
>> impacting the tail and left wing. The Spitfire ended up on its nose.
>>
>> Although the Hurricane had recently finished a 16-year restoration,
>> Gregory
>> says it had been flawless with no mechanical issues whatsoever. Ray
>> Middleton who was responsible for the majority of the restoration was on
>> site and was instrumental in recovering both aircraft without causing
>> additional damage.
>>
>> "Even though we brief, execute the brief flawlessly, and do everything we
>> can, there are still inherent risks and hazards, but thankfully no one was
>> hurt," said Gregory. The Hurricane will be restored to flying status as
>> soon
>> as possible.
>>
>
>

Can you imagine spending sixteen long and arduous years rebuilding that
Hurricane to flying status and then, in a few seconds, it is back to the
drawing board.

My sympathies to all involved with the project.

--
Moving things in still pictures!

Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
May 3rd 08, 08:17 PM
Billy wrote:
>
> At last proof the Hurricane is tougher than the Spitfire LOL.
>

Tougher? Maybe. More readily repairable? Absolutely!

Dave Whiley
May 3rd 08, 08:36 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
m...
> Billy wrote:
>>
>> At last proof the Hurricane is tougher than the Spitfire LOL.
>>
>
> Tougher? Maybe. More readily repairable? Absolutely!

Yes, one of the things I've heard several times from people who were around
at the time was that fixing a bullet hole pretty much anywhere on a Spitfire
involved beating a new panel, whereas there were plenty of places a bullet
(or even a cannon shell) could go through a Hurricane without hitting
anything vital, and sticking a couple of patches over the holes made it as
good as new.

--
Dave

not-me should be djw401 and there's no need for any wossname

Bob Harrington
May 4th 08, 04:46 AM
ŽiŠardo > wrote in
:

> Billy wrote:
>> At last proof the Hurricane is tougher than the Spitfire LOL.
>> ===================================
>> "Dingo" ?> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> This just came my way from a Canadian contact. "Sunday", I believe,
>>> refers to last Sunday, the 27th April.
>>> ~~
>>> Dingo
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> ~
>>>
>>> There was a low-speed ground collision between a Spitfire and a
>>> Hawker Hurricane at the Lone Star Flight Museum's air show today
>>> (Sunday).
>>>
>>> According to Tom Gregory, a member of the museum and pilot of
>>> several museum
>>> airplanes, a group had just finished a WWII fighter demonstration of
>>> multiple aircraft: Gregory in the P-47, Ron Fagen's P-38, the
>>> museum's F6F,
>>> Howard Pardue's Bearcat, Bill Greenwood's Spitfire and the museum's
>>> Hurricane when the mishap occurred.
>>>
>>> Gregory says everything had gone exactly as briefed including the
>>> recovery of the Spitfire and Hurricane, which were the last two to
>>> land in calm wind.
>>> >From the initial review, the Hurricane was at taxi speed when the
>>> >brakes
>>> failed causing a slow ground loop to the left resulting in the
>>> Spitfire impacting the tail and left wing. The Spitfire ended up on
>>> its nose.
>>>
>>> Although the Hurricane had recently finished a 16-year restoration,
>>> Gregory
>>> says it had been flawless with no mechanical issues whatsoever. Ray
>>> Middleton who was responsible for the majority of the restoration
>>> was on site and was instrumental in recovering both aircraft without
>>> causing additional damage.
>>>
>>> "Even though we brief, execute the brief flawlessly, and do
>>> everything we can, there are still inherent risks and hazards, but
>>> thankfully no one was hurt," said Gregory. The Hurricane will be
>>> restored to flying status as soon
>>> as possible.
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Can you imagine spending sixteen long and arduous years rebuilding
> that Hurricane to flying status and then, in a few seconds, it is back
> to the drawing board.
>
> My sympathies to all involved with the project.

I know some people who are keenly aware of the pain involved in such an
incident. Like the incredible volunteers at Boeing, I'm sure the good folks
at the Lone Star Museum are more than capable of repeating their miracle of
restoration.

Bob ^,,^

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